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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 9:41 am

The 5.0 scale also adds more emphasis on the voting, unless that gets restructered later, since votes have the same value put are in play on a smaller scale here
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 10:05 am

Now I'm all for /5 rather than /10, but are we then changing votes to 0.05, as if it stays the same we'll have alot more matches determined by voting rather than rating. And I think we all know the sour feeling of losing by votes when your promo scores higher.

so thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 11:09 am

I think this give a lil bit better balance to the structure as a whole and give folks who are able to garner votes a better shot.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 11:53 am

But then this becomes the simple factor of is this a popularity contest or a rated competition. I see where you are coming from, but to my original point, nothing hurts more than having a better promo and then losing by simply votes. If that happens what can you do extra then. So my simple point is if you are going to lower ratings by half, do the same to votes.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 1:59 pm

OOC:

Leon has a point.

The ratings staff, in my eyes, is a fair and balanced group of people. Voters on the other hand, sometimes are not. Tag teams, stables... they all have a tendency to vote for one another. I would know, as I used to be in a stable.

Hell, I thought VCW's scoring and voting system worked wonders.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 2:43 pm

Abel I'm sorry about the roster thread, that's my fault I've just been so insanely busy lately I haven't had time to get to it.

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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 5:07 pm

There she is...Miss Karma Jones, in all of her nakedness.

OK, I'm kidding, but I had to do something to get someone's attention. Now, I assume that most of you take showers and what not so when someone flushes the toilet while you're in there, it can't be a good feeling. Now imagine if someone took like a five-gallon bucket of ice water mixed with snow and dumped it on you.

That is what Karma did to me a couple of days ago. I've got some down time now and I'm struggling with ideas to come up with that DO NOT involve touching her, as per Alex O'Rion's request. As I mull over possible avenues of retribution, I start to realize that I bend over backwards for Alexander Keith O'Rion.

He says I can't touch Karma. He says I can't go out after 2 A.M. He says I can't be left alone with Jessica. He says I shouldn't study wrestling all day. He says I can't watch porn on my computer.

OK, that last one I made up.

Anyway, I've about had it with his rules and shit. Only thing I've ever told him was to take his job seriously and try to cut back on drinking as much as he does. See, not too hard, right? Now, what to do to Karma...

Before I can have an epiphany, there's a knock at the door to my room. I answer, and it's Karma. A glistening, naked save for a bath towel wrapped around her body Karma.

"May I help you," I ask. It's starting to get difficult to ignore this but again, I persevere. She merely smiles and says, "I take it you're still uncomfortable around women? I'm wearing a towel for God's sake. You act like you've never seen a woman get out of a shower."

She has no idea how wrong she is. I've seen her get out of a shower plenty of times. I've seen bits and pieces of what she's hidden from my perverted view. The problem is, I can't have it and I have this thing where I tend to want what I can't have then cease to care as much upon obtaining it or when the opportunity of getting it presents itself. See the C-4 Championship, Kylie, and so on.

Notice I left the Tag titles out of it. They're starting to really grow on me. As if Alex, Karma and to an extent Jessica.

"You know how Alex wigs out anytime we're in each other's presence. Are you trying to start shit?"

"Chris, come on now. You know I know Uncle Alex isn't that fond of us being friends. I came in here because I needed a favor."

"OK, what is it?"

"Can I borrow some clothes," she asks while I glare at her. Dammit woman you have your own clothes. What's wrong with them? Maybe I should have said that out loud.

"You have your own clothes," I say with annoyance. Karma pouts slightly as I remain firm. Seriously, it's starting to bug me that she wears my clothes over her own.

"There's a certain reason why I wear your clothes."

"You mean besides to annoy me?"

"Yeah, actually," She says. "As Uncle Alex has probably disclosed to you already, things between me and my dad aren't exactly the best. His drinking has gotten worse and I feel like I'm losing him. Being at home sucks but I can't help but to want to be there to help him through this. He won't let me though, we always end up fighting."

Ah yes, Dante. He hasn't really been doing so well. Everything he trusted and POSSIBLY cared about just shat right back on him. Alex fell by the wayside, Seth fucked up, Kross, Drew, Myself, you name it. He probably feels abandoned, definitely feels broken. I would sympathize with him but he has a daughter and sometimes you just need to suck it up for the greater good, especially when your daughter has been through the shit Karma has.

"I just miss home, alright? You're from the Bay Area, just like me. Just reminds me of home," she confesses.

"You just said that things sucked at home, Karma."

"There's a difference, idiot. That's just a residence, place I sleep, where I get mail. I miss HOME."

Don't let this sob story get you, I think to myself. You're better than that Chris. Well, not better but you're too serious to understand this...Next thing I know I sit on my bed and pat the area beside me. Karma sits down as I put my arm around her and say, "Look. I don't have the best relationship with my father either. But unlike him, I truly believe that if it came down to it, Dante would move heaven and earth for you. He's risked his life to avenge you before, I have no doubt that things may seem bad now, but when the chips are down, he'll be there."

"Are you just saying that to make me feel better? Sympathy isn't a strong point of yours."

"Is it working?"

"Kinda."

"Then no. I'm saying it because I truly believe it," I say. OK, part of that is a lie but I hate to see women cry. It's a mood killer and just really a somber sight. Anyway, I hug Karma tight, because well frankly she needs one every now and then as while I may be a cold, calculating bastard, I care about people that matter to Alex.

Then a smile creeps across her face.

I'm good at this after all.

I get up and toss her a T-shirt of mine. I turn away so she may put it on in privacy, if you will. Afterwards, I turn and go to open the door for her but she stops me. "Can I ask you something?"

"What?"

"Uncle Alex would really freak if I brought this up to him but you seem like the kind of person that wouldn't have that kind of reaction so, tell me about sex," she says oddly sneakily. Oh fuck. She can't be serious, right? I mean, she's fucking 17, she should know by now...then again, Dante's her father. She was probably sheltered all her life following what Syanide, well Daniel, did to her when she was little. I really do not want to have this conversation.

Alex would REALLY flip out to the point where he'd probably be pissed enough to beat me in a fight. On top of that, Karma and sex is a touchy subject to me anyway. Hell, it's not much of a secret that I would've already nailed her if she was of age but still.

"Well, Chris? You're manning up or what?"

I think it over. A part of me thinks that Alex is standing right by the door, listening to my every word. So I decide to call her and his bluff.

"I could show you better than I could tell you as I'm a rather demonstrative teacher, but that's not the best course of action so..." I gruffly state before she cuts me off with an opening.

"Uncle Alex went with Jessica to the mall or something, they'll be gone a while."

This precocious teen cannot be serious. "I'd rather tell you," I say. Karma walks up to me trying to be all seductive. I don't think she has much of an idea what's she's doing but when a young woman built like Karma is one you kind of have your eye on, and she's fresh out the shower wearing nothing but a t-shirt that BARELY covers what needs to be covered while she walks up to you, there's not much she has to do now is there?

"Karma, are you sure you're ready for this kind of talk?"

"You said we weren't going to talk, which is a shame since you do a lot of lectures at work. But if you think this is better then we'll go with that." Karma stretches and places her arms around my neck and stares into my eyes. Her chest is on my chest, our lips are about 2 inches apart and her back is facing my dresser, which I could easily lift her up and place her onto.

OK, here we go. Golf. Alex O'Rion. Kylie. Jaime during labor. Big Daddy V's moobs. Acting on impulse to find out it was a test by Alex O'Rion.

...and we're good.

"Karma, I'll tell you everything you want to know, emphasis on TELL but you need to put a bottom on, k?"

"K." She says, then she flashes me and shows that she has on some pajama shorts which I couldn't see under the shirt I gave her. She then winks and leaves and Alex O'Rion smirks before giving his 'niece' a peck on the cheek and whispering 'well done' as he walks into my room. He looks me up and down and chuckles before saying "You almost slipped, bye. Nice to see you have some self-control."

"Fuck you."

"Oh someone will be. Can't say the same for you, can we asshat?" Alex says before laughing heartily. He pats me on the shoulder and I angrily buck him off. "Why the hell would you do that," I demand. Before Alex can answer, I feel a sharp pain right in the middle of my stomach. I double over and fall onto my bed as Alex uses the handle of his bat to reveal the rest of it.

"Stop looking at Karma when she comes out the shower, K? Otherwise, me and my friend here will see just exactly how much knowledge is inside your cranium after I bash your brains out. Understand?"

"..ack...Yeah, fine. My bad," I manage to force out. Jesus fuck it's hard to prepare for a bat shot to the gut. Alex scowls and grunts, "No shit, Sherlock. Now, if you'll excuse me, my darling awaits. It's your turn to do the grocery shopping too, so don't forget the beer, sir." Alex then leaves, job of bat-happy uncle done for now. After Alex leaves, Karma dips her head back in and says to me, "So are we still on for that talk?"

"What do you think," I say sarcastically. She merely smiles and says, "See you later. Thanks for the reassurance, seriously." I nod painfully as I manage to sit up and close my door.

I hate that mother fucker Alex sometimes. I hate Karma for this happening to me too. And now I realize one way to get her back, Alex's rules be damned.

I'm going to hate fuck her.

Literally.

But at least she'll know what's going on and enjoy it during. Can't say the same for Alex though.

How's that for a bat to the gut, eh 'bye'? That'll be my funny prank.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

...

Hooch really is crazy. Oh well, we all are.

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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 6:31 pm

Leon Caprice wrote:
But then this becomes the simple factor of is this a popularity contest or a rated competition. I see where you are coming from, but to my original point, nothing hurts more than having a better promo and then losing by simply votes. If that happens what can you do extra then. So my simple point is if you are going to lower ratings by half, do the same to votes.

OOC: Austin, your a dick, I'll respond to you in a bit.

And I disagree with this assessment. That's basically saying the raters opinions are more important than the voters. And as someone who has won almost every one of his matches with a lower promo score and by votes I find that upsetting. Maybe my promo doesn't appeal to the select few raters, but it appeals to the mass amount of people so I win the match. Now your telling me that's the wrong way to do it?

I'm all for changing votes to half to even things out, but I will give a nice big fuck you to anyone who tells me I'm winning matches the wrong way because I don't get the higher score. If that's the case, get rid of votes and the entire debate goes away, otherwise don't be so damned bitter.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 7:41 pm

Alex O'Riolu wrote:
Leon Caprice wrote:
But then this becomes the simple factor of is this a popularity contest or a rated competition. I see where you are coming from, but to my original point, nothing hurts more than having a better promo and then losing by simply votes. If that happens what can you do extra then. So my simple point is if you are going to lower ratings by half, do the same to votes.

OOC: Austin, your a dick, I'll respond to you in a bit.

And I disagree with this assessment. That's basically saying the raters opinions are more important than the voters. And as someone who has won almost every one of his matches with a lower promo score and by votes I find that upsetting. Maybe my promo doesn't appeal to the select few raters, but it appeals to the mass amount of people so I win the match. Now your telling me that's the wrong way to do it?

I'm all for changing votes to half to even things out, but I will give a nice big fuck you to anyone who tells me I'm winning matches the wrong way because I don't get the higher score. If that's the case, get rid of votes and the entire debate goes away, otherwise don't be so damned bitter.

Interesting debate. In theory I 100% agree with you BUT I know (and you know) that people vote without having read promos as often as not. For evidence of that I would quote the time I had four votes against me and the other guys was a no show......and two of those votes were from people classified as "Main Eventers".

At least we know the raters have actually read the promo.

It doesn't solve the debate because votes are definitely important but finding the correct balance is the important thing
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 7:45 pm

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OOC:

Leon has a point.

The ratings staff, in my eyes, is a fair and balanced group of people. Voters on the other hand, sometimes are not. Tag teams, stables... they all have a tendency to vote for one another. I would know, as I used to be in a stable.

Hell, I thought VCW's scoring and voting system worked wonders.


I think voting should be either reduced in weight or totally eliminated now that I have thought on it....Granted if your stable and peeps are strong you swing a match or two but it should be the writing that gets you the win not who you know and the like. It contradicts what I said earlier but makes the most sense.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 9:06 pm

OOC: .....yes.

Because the few raters are completely unbiased.

Basically what you just said is that a few should decide who wins and screw the thoughts of the many. Yes people blind vote, yes people vote for friends, but it's their right. Honestly, it might just be as I said I win matches on votes more than the strength of my promo score, and personally I've always believed that while the raters may not have liked my promo, it reached the majority of the people who read it thus the votes.

I mean votes should be about the writing as well, but screw it, this is apparently mob rule, I'm looting me a TV while the looting is good.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 9:30 pm

OOC: My understanding was always that the ratings were purely on the promo, and the voters were allowed to vote however we wanted. I honestly don't always vote on the better promo. I vote on who I want to win the match, either because of angles, in show happenings, or by effort. Guess my vote is meaningless because I've voted for obviously worse promos before.

BTW, if the promo scale is cut in half, and you cut the votes in half... nothing changed. There's no point to changing it at all. They made it on a 5 point scale so votes would weigh slightly higher. Why don't we see how it works before condemning it.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 10:03 pm

OOC:

RE: Butters

This is why I said it is an interesting debate, there is no clear cut answer to votes vs rating... I think we all know that in the end what we have is the way to go..... ie a mix of the two. What we need to work out is the balance.

As for your statement that you voted for promos because of angles / effort / etc I think no one would argue with that as long as your vote is not "eenie meenie mynie moe" or just "I like him better so he gets my vote". Voting based on storyline and what makes sense is as valid as anything else.

Your next comment I disagree with however. The scores were cut to an "out of 5" so that there would hopefully be a wider and more diverse set of ratings scores as opposed to everybody getting scores within a 1.5 range (7.5 - 9) in a scale of ten. Not to make the votes more significant.

That said if the range does widen out up to say a range of 2 (eg 2.7 - 4.7 being common scores) then the 0.1 for votes is already reduced in impact as ther is likely to be more gap between promo scores for votes to have to overcome.

Based on that I am all for Butters suggestion of leaving it as is for now and if it starts to become commonplace for votes to decide a match we can address it then.

****Of course having said that if I lose a match on votes I'll bitch and moan to anyone who will listen***
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 10:26 pm

I think it's an interesting debate. The 10.0 scale was a good scale in theory for balance between votes and promo scores, because in theory, the promo scores had a much wider range. That didn't end up happening, but a 5.0 promo score scale to a 0.05 vote doesn't work as well, because it undervalues the input of the voting public.

I was never a fan of how the 10.0 scale was handled, but I still think that the theory behind it and the balance it should create is a fairly strong one. In a fed like ours, we can never say no to the public input on the results. No matter how you go about it, the votes are there as a way for people to help determine the result. How you go about it (legally), through trash talking, promo, stables, whatever, is a varied thing, but if we start leaving the results to a small percentage of people, problems arise.

The voting and promo system is the best system we have, but it's still flawed. No matter how we determine results, there are always going to be flaws. The balance of power helps reduce flaws. I think what I'm trying to say is voting is an integral part of our fed, and if we lose it, we lose one of our most endearing and noble qualities. Democracy.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 10:30 pm

If you start to say how someone can and can't vote, then there's no point to voting.

What if I want to randomly choose? What if I want to vote for Slegna just because I like him? I don't have that right? Why not? It's a game, why can't I place my votes however I want?
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 11:12 pm

Hold the phone.

I never said you can't vote however you want. Hell it's how our countries' political systems work.

I did say people might argue with you if you do those things, but they can't stop you. Also how our political systems work....Which brings us right back to why we have the checks & balances of Rating & votes.....

Besides which we're arguing semantincs. I agree with you on keeping the votes as they are for now.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeThu Dec 30, 2010 11:17 pm

OOC: Yes people have the right to harass me over how I vote.

But then I'm just as in the right to tell them to get the sand out of their vagina, this is just a game.

Checks and counter balances.

Now can we go back to talking about how awesome the Wayward Sons are?

....I mean the show....yes....the show.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 12:07 am

The Wayward Sons are an abomination and the sooner they are knocked from their perch the better.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 1:10 am

Breaking News: Abel Steele has been replaced on the Full Metal Wrestling roster by a rock. When asked why new and former CEO Jason Roy had this to say.

"The rock whines less, gets paid less, and has more charisma. It's win-win!"

We will stay with this story for the fifteen minutes anyone has ever or will ever care about anything Abel Steele does.

Insiders though predict the rock to be the next to hold the Gold Card but never to cash it.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 1:17 am

Wait, you're replacing me with The Rock? I know they're big shoes to fill but I thought the guy was out of the business?

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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 1:20 am

A rock.

Just a normal rock.

Besides didn't you hear "The Rock" is dead bye.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 1:42 am

Well I was trying to think of a smart reply for how we could replace you but it turns out I don't give a damn what a smart mouth shit like you has to say....

Go figure
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 1:54 am

OOC: We can sit here and argue that the 5 point scale doesn't work well, and it does this or it does that but in the end the 5 point scale has worked for LPW and they've been going strong for a while now.

That being said, votes should count for more than the promo score. If you're telling me that you'd rather listen to 5 people's opinions over the opinions of the masses (20-30 on a good week) then you're basically agreeing this should be a socialistic society where 5 people make all the rules pending on how they feel.

Upon which I say bullshit, different rater look for different things but on a traditional scale length, originality, spelling/grammar, match relevance, and content were what I'd look for. Some people don't like certain styles, some people don't like certain storylines, some people don't like this or don't like that and that is perfectly fine but to tell people that you're going to leave the full amount of power into the hands of a select few is outlandish in every right.

Do people vote block? Yes.

Do people vote trade? Yes.

Do people vote for their friends? Yes.

But in the end this is the best system we have got and it won't get any better changing it. And if you want to get technical, having the votes count for more is more realistic.

Does the wrestler who is the most technical always get the biggest push?

Fuck no, the more popular wrestler gets the biggest push and this isn't any different.

What I'd like to know is what is the difference between letting 5 people decide the outcome and having one main person pick all the winners?
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 1:55 am

That or you're just too damned stupid.

Sorry bye, but the obvious has got to be pointed out. You're calling me a smart mouth, fact is I can back up what I say for the most part. You choke more than a catholic school girl in a face fuck film.

Come back when you're worth something, cause unlike the rooks round here you've spent enough time here to be more than "that guy whose great when there is no fuckin' pressure."

And before you go on and on about how I screwed up in the past like every other person who hasn't done what I have, save your breathe. I'm to busy using this Mount Vesuvius Torch and Haybusa Cup to cover my ears, while using my tag team title and Full Metal Championship to block out your ugly fuckin' face, to hear you.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 2:55 am

Well looky here, seems I've managed to upset one of the famous O'Rion boys, the FMW equivalent of the Baldwin's. Too bad you're much more of a Stephen than an Alec as far as your family goes.

Even now it is only because you hitched your wagon to the "King" of FMW that anyone even cares what the fuck you are doing anymore. How does it feel to be the court Jester? Or maybe you are the Royal Dick Cleaner?

Now I'm not sure where you are getting your information from but the only time I ever did anything like choke was against Drew Michaels. that is the only match I ever lost that has meant a damn.

Now sure this is where you go "Because you haven't had any other's" and that may be true but I tell you what I have done. I've taken down Doc and I've taken down Christian G Smitten.

You wanna talk about how good you are because you've won this and that fine. But that doesn't mean a damn thing to me Jack. Right now you might be the Jester in the King's court but the way I see it, you are still just a clown.

Oh and one other thing.... Lindsay Lohan called, she wants her trainwreck back
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 3:01 am

The jester is still better than the peasant just as I'm still better than you bye.

I hooked my wagon to Austin did I?

Well honestly maybe that's true, he's had a hell of a year, but then the same could be made for any man teaming with him right now. It's not that I'm not doing well enough, it's that he's doing so much better than you and I that you can insult me. But the thing is, at the very least it makes me smarter than you, because even if the fact that I'm one of the most successful stars this company has ever seen and I've got the resume to prove it isn't enough to impress, I work with the best.

But see the thing is I didn't hitch myself to his wagon, I tried to have a friend. Something not too many people round here understand. Austin's a lot like me, or maybe I'm a lot like him who the fuck knows, so what you call hitching a wagon I call getting along with a bye. He annoys the living shyte out of me, and keeps making eyes at my niece, but he's the best friend I could ask for. Right now he's doing better than me sure, but read up your fucking history bye, I always come back.

Besides, who the fuck are ya to be sayin' shyte, go back to trying to use Doc and Faith to matter just like your accusing me. Though I think you missed the boat by a bit with them.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 3:30 am

Heh..... friends.

Well if that is you're idea of a friendship mate, then I think I understand a little better why you are such a hum-dinger of a bloke.

As for Faith & Doc well we aren't friends..... not yet anyways but maybe, just maybe, they are using me to matter? Maybe I will let one of them hitch a ride to me and we'll just take away the glue that keeps your friendship from parting faster than a cheap hooker's legs.

Then again maybe we are just sick of being shafted by every twisted sociopath in this damn game and aren't willing to take it any longer.

Whadda you reckon bye??



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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 3:42 am

What the belts?

Sure they're nice but at the end of the day their just belts. What connects me and Austin is the fact that we have plenty in common, act like juvenile idiots, when no one is looking in his case. And at the same time he helps keep me in check and I do the same for him. I stop him from running off on some baser urge, which hasn't happened in a while thankfully.

Where he forces me to get off my lazy ass and be the guy wrestler I'm fuckin' supposed to be.

The belts might be something shiny I can use to impress Jess, but at the end of the day it's not what keeps us together.

Though I doubt very much you'd be able to take them to find out.

And maybe if you weren't such an arrogant ass who thinks anyone with a belt has a problem you'd realize I came back to this fuckin' place for the same reason. Except I was that psychopath and I have plenty to atone for. Instead of trying to make me back into the bastard who tore this fed apart and took the top belt because he could, maybe, just maybe we could work together on that.

But something tells me you have a catalog of reasons why that won't work so I'll just say this.

Get your head out of your fuckin' ass bye, you want to make pretend and say I'm the bad guy so be it. With my past there are plenty around to believe it. But by the end of the day everyones going to see you for exactly what you are.

The manipulative little pussy who goes after everyone with a title verbally because he is so desperate for attention he thinks he needs one to make up for his own shortcomings. You want a belt, man the fuck up and challenge us already. I'm not going to turn you down because you're unworthy.

I'll fuckin' show you why you are bye.

OOC: I got a five dolla bill here that says Austin is pissed we did this the one time he doesn't have regular net access lol.
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 4:12 am

You knwo for someone who's done a lot of talking about how smart he is you seem to miss the point. But never fear so has everyone else so far. And truth be told I never really figured you to be the one who would finally see the truth anyway.

But after all you are Canadian and it isn't nice to make fun of people with disabilities so let me spell it out for you and maybe your oh so talented tag team partner can finally grasp what I am about here.

I DON"T HAVE BELT ENVY.

It's like the whole penis envy thing. That's right, I'm using a penis analogy!

Ever noticed how when you go to the changeroom and you feel a little under pressure to "measure up" against the other boys? I know you do.... Even that new guy Donkey Kong or whatever the fuck it is who is hung like a rhinoceros does it....Because its not women who suffer penis envy.... it's other men. Worried their tiny manhood will not be impressive next to their partner.

Well you guys with you Title's are much the same, thinking every one out there is oh so jealous of your fabulous title. sure some of the guys out there are but not this little black duck mate.

There is a reason I only ever had one title shot.

There is a reason I never cashed in my Gold Card

There is a reason I'm not challenging you for your little belts

I don't give a flying fuck. It's more fun to poke the bear and see what sort of a reaction I can get than to deal with the reality of holding a championship. I'd rather torment people like you than have to deal with the responsibiliy of title defenses.

Thats why the Gold Card was perfect.... all the glory, none of the responsibility. That is why I WILL win Mt Vesuvius. (Oh and then we can look each other sideways in the locker as you compare your Hayabusa Cup and Mt V Torch to my Gold Card and Mt V torch.)

HOLD ON ..... I hear you thinking it.... not that long ago I was challenging Austin for his C-4 belt. Good point mate. But I knew he would never give me that shot. He has far more invested in his belts than you do.

Now if you want me to find a partner so we can fight for shits and giggles then it will be my absolute pleasure........

As for you not being the bad guy... well the truth depends on what point of view you want to take. I'm sure you believe you are doing a wonderful thing by watching over Chris and "keeping him on the right path" but to me ...... you're just his enabler. Now he has an excuse to push his boundaries because it is your job to stop him. Ask yourself this Alex.... "How much remorse has he actually shown for his actions?"

Just what I thought mate..... silence

So here's another penis analogy for you

Go suck a dick....

Wait that's not an analogy.... oh well.

OOC: Serves him right.... don't ask me what for. I just said that without thinking
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PostSubject: Re: AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!!   AMMUNITION 12.2 RESULTS!!! - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeFri Dec 31, 2010 4:39 am

You don't have belt envy?

That's why you have picked a fight with every man to hold the C-4 belt right? Called out Drew relentlessly, keep calling on Austin? All so you can poke the bear.

I call bull shit bye, you want what you don't have, why? Because it's natural, human beings are greedy fuckin' creatures no matter how hard we try not to be. So keep deceiving yourself bye, say you don't want what you don't have. Keep belittling how easy it is to do what you haven't and I have.

Cause frankly I don't give a shit.

You're a hypocrite bye, big as any out there and your holier than thou attitude just helps to cement it.

Maybe I'm not a saint, but at least I'm trying. And maybe that's not enough in your eyes, but why the fuck should I measure myself by what you think. You've never done what I've done, never had to experience what I have, and I'm just trying to make sense of my life the best I can.

Aint good enough for ya, good on you, that and buck fifty will get you a cup of coffee and I still won't give a shit.

Go ahead and get your partner or not, like I said I don't need to prove a damned thing to you.

But I will show you why I've been near the top since this place fuckin' opened.

I am that good, and it'll be grand to use you to remind everyone of that bye. Tag team or straight up one on one makes no difference to me.
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