Corruption 14.1 Results

Matt Ashburn...

I cannot say I'm surprised. After all I've seen this story before. Young hot shot comes in, runs over a few people, gets himself an accomplishment and is anointed as the next big thing.

Then he joins a stable that needs him more than he needs it (considering he's already won something without them over someone relatively regarded).

I did the same thing with the ill-fated Innovative Initiative as 2008 Hayabusa Cup Champion. Beat Harlequin to get it.

Now, at the time I joined that group, I had just put in the best performance of my career to that point. I went on to lose almost every match I competed in as a part of that group. You've already started losing and if this is like most stables, then you'll be losing a lot more really soon for the good of the group, or every win you gain will never be of your own merit.

And it won't be a fingerpoke that puts you down in the former.

But I understand, Ashburn. You were "your own man", you walked to the beat of your own drum. Head held high, running people over, fuck what they think of it. One of the main things that made you marketable, made you unique was entirely compromised by this one action. You laid down for a underachieving jobber to join a group that will be headed by one of the most egotistical people FMW has ever known.

I'm sure you've thought this through so... I hope your math is correct otherwise this is going to be a terrible decision.

It's a shameful thing... but as smart as you are...

well...stupid people deserve what they get.

Wait a second. Did Chris Austin just compliment me n' Nick?

Don't get too happy. It was a back-handed compliment.

They usually are with Austin.

Not so much happy as surprised. I wasn't expectin' it.

RCA wrote:

Matt Ashburn...

I cannot say I'm surprised. After all I've seen this story before. Young hot shot comes in, runs over a few people, gets himself an accomplishment and is anointed as the next big thing.

Then he joins a stable that needs him more than he needs it (considering he's already won something without them over someone relatively regarded).

I did the same thing with the ill-fated Innovative Initiative as 2008 Hayabusa Cup Champion. Beat Harlequin to get it.

Now, at the time I joined that group, I had just put in the best performance of my career to that point. I went on to lose almost every match I competed in as a part of that group. You've already started losing and if this is like most stables, then you'll be losing a lot more really soon for the good of the group, or every win you gain will never be of your own merit.

And it won't be a fingerpoke that puts you down in the former.

But I understand, Ashburn. You were "your own man", you walked to the beat of your own drum. Head held high, running people over, fuck what they think of it. One of the main things that made you marketable, made you unique was entirely compromised by this one action. You laid down for a underachieving jobber to join a group that will be headed by one of the most egotistical people FMW has ever known.

I'm sure you've thought this through so... I hope your math is correct otherwise this is going to be a terrible decision.

It's a shameful thing... but as smart as you are...

well...stupid people deserve what they get.

I think it's cute that you care, Chris.

Like you said, Innovative Initiative was a dismal failure but it was your choice to join. Your judgement was off then and it's the same story now. You're failing to recognize the extent of this opportunity because of your own poor decision-making and bad experiences. Open your mind.

Bryson isn't Hostyle, YNG isn't II and I'm not you.

No. I'm going to agree with Austin here.

YNG is as ill-fated as II. And Original Sin. And HavOc. And Paragon. And the Illuminati.

The fact that factions falter and the only person who really benefits from them is the lead of the stable makes you look like a sucker, Ashburn. There's no logic to this move. And it makes you look like an easily manipulated pussy.

End of story.

Storm183 wrote:

If Stormmaster was facing you for that title, you would be running out of that arena door with your pants down while your gay buddies buttfuck him to death.

Wait....

So if Stormaster faced me, I would run out the door with MY pants down, while my gay buddies buttfuck HIM to death.

You going to have a gay orgy if you beat me?

Ashburn wrote:

I think it's cute that you care, Chris.

Like you said, Innovative Initiative was a dismal failure but it was your choice to join. Your judgement was off then and it's the same story now. You're failing to recognize the extent of this opportunity because of your own poor decision-making and bad experiences. Open your mind.

Bryson isn't Hostyle, YNG isn't II and I'm not you.

At the time I joined, we had just annihilated a motley crew assembled by Nick Bryson. Hostyle and Flare succeeded in II, Kelson was facing competition that he wasn't ready for. Admittedly, I was abysmal but that losing stretch, topped off by defeating Smitten at Death Row set into motion what you see now so in a sense, long-term II was the best thing that ever happened to yours truly.

Also...

I know you're not me. I don't lay down for anyone. Not even my own stablemates and/or allies. Ask Alex O'Rion.

And Damien... truth be told I think the best tag team is in fact, the Together Demons but by definition, the champions of said tag team division are the best, which means by letter of the law you and Gray fit the bill.

In all honesty, you're a pretty good team. Do I think you're the best? No. Does it matter? Why should it? You've got the straps.

Mark Johansson wrote:

Wait....

So if Stormmaster faced me, I would run out the door with MY pants down, while my gay buddies buttfuck HIM to death.

You going to have a gay orgy if you beat me?

Peyton: No you dumbass.

What I was implying is that if you faced Stormmaster one on one for your belt that means fuck all to you and your worthless stable, you would not be there to continue the beatdown from your stable buddies because Stormmaster would beat you up so hard, you wouldn't even find the nearest toliet. Also he would take away your title and make it worthwhile.

Keep with the fucking script.

iDeAndes wrote:

No. I'm going to agree with Austin here.

YNG is as ill-fated as II. And Original Sin. And HavOc. And Paragon. And the Illuminati.

The fact that factions falter and the only person who really benefits from them is the lead of the stable makes you look like a sucker, Ashburn. There's no logic to this move. And it makes you look like an easily manipulated pussy.

End of story.

And you're judging this faction within days of its formation. Just because you can't see the bigger picture doesn't mean there isn't one. Hilariously, you compared YNG to Evolution earlier but now claim that no one benefits from factions except the leader.

Think more. I thought you were supposed to be sharp.

RCA wrote:

I know you're not me. I don't lay down for anyone. Not even my own stablemates and/or allies. Ask Alex O'Rion.

Well good for you, tough guy. If you thought I had principles or some kind of moral code then you thought wrong. If it suits me to lay down, I will lay down. Perhaps that disappoints you... but why would I care about that?

Look at it this way. I layed down for Marky Mark and I'm a millionaire overnight. Money, cash, hoes.

If anyone still has any balls around here, let's cut the damn foreplay and get to the part where you proclaim because you managed to assault me backstage you *know* you're going to beat me for my title, only for me to leave you needing dentures.

Ashburn wrote:

Well good for you, tough guy. If you thought I had principles or some kind of moral code then you thought wrong. If it suits me to lay down, I will lay down. Perhaps that disappoints you... but why would I care about that?

Look at it this way. I layed down for Marky Mark and I'm a millionaire overnight. Money, cash, hoes.

Oh no, no, no... principles and moral code went out the window with you a while ago, even I know that.

But nonsensical is it not? You, a champion, laid down for Marky Mark, losing arguably the single most important championship in terms of weekly programming (after all, there's supposed to be a title defense every show) and you're officially a millionaire after pretty much whoring yourself out.

Hmm... I'm going to start calling you random porn star's names from this point on, Jenna Jameson.

In fact, no... that's too good for you, pissant.

You'll just be you, you piece of trash.

RCA wrote:

Ashburn wrote:

Well good for you, tough guy. If you thought I had principles or some kind of moral code then you thought wrong. If it suits me to lay down, I will lay down. Perhaps that disappoints you... but why would I care about that?

Look at it this way. I layed down for Marky Mark and I'm a millionaire overnight. Money, cash, hoes.

Oh no, no, no... principles and moral code went out the window with you a while ago, even I know that.

But nonsensical is it not? You, a champion, laid down for Marky Mark, losing arguably the single most important championship in terms of weekly programming (after all, there's supposed to be a title defense every show) and you're officially a millionaire after pretty much whoring yourself out.

Hmm... I'm going to start calling you random porn star's names from this point on, Jenna Jameson.

Bryson: Chris, I wouldn't expect you to get it. You see the world strictly in black and white, like some others here. There are only wins and losses to you and nothing else. We've all become a part of something that is bigger now, though I can't spill more because my teammates will tell you why on air next show, because I know that explanation is ratings.

At the end of the day, Austin, you can try to understand, because you and I both know you are not a moron, but until we explain everything you're just not going to 'get it'. No disrespect meant, I'm just stating fact.

My problem isn't with you, Nick. If you are able to puppeteer and manipulate simple minds into doing your bidding well as I said earlier, they deserve what they get.

And I also said that I hope this works out for him.

In terms of "getting it" well, I look forward to seeing what exactly makes this so different from every other fucking stable to every exist.

Until I see that, I will deem this a failure waiting to happen as most stables are.

Well, there's the Misfits but that was nothing more than an ego-stroking circle jerking carpooling set up. They were pointless.

RCA wrote:

Oh no, no, no... principles and moral code went out the window with you a while ago, even I know that.

But nonsensical is it not? You, a champion, laid down for Marky Mark, losing arguably the single most important championship in terms of weekly programming (after all, there's supposed to be a title defense every show) and you're officially a millionaire after pretty much whoring yourself out.

Hmm... I'm going to start calling you random porn star's names from this point on, Jenna Jameson.

Glad you've been paying attention.

Please. Don't try to tell me the Television Championship is the most important anything. I'm not saying it's worthless like Marky Mark did, but it's still a third-tier belt and therefore something I can live without... especially when I'll be living in a mansion.

Have fun with that. Meanwhile I'll fuck girls dirty enough to be porn stars in the back of a Koenigsegg.

Ashburn wrote:

Glad you've been paying attention.

Please. Don't try to tell me the Television Championship is the most important anything. I'm not saying it's worthless like Marky Mark did, but it's still a third-tier belt and therefore something I can live without... especially when I'll be living in a mansion.

Have fun with that. Meanwhile I'll fuck girls dirty enough to be porn stars in the back of a Koenigsegg.

Fornicating with Celeste Rousseau-Roy clones is not the safest way to pass the time, but trash attracts trash, no matter how good of a wrestler the first piece of trash is.

RCA wrote:

Well, there's the Misfits but that was nothing more than an ego-stroking circle jerking carpooling set up. They were pointless.

Ah, so this is the point where you try to anger me by calling out a stable you know that I'm loyal to. Or Drew, perhaps I'm being somewhat self-servicing here. Thing is, I'm not angry at you. I get it, but more on that later.

I'm curious as to what your definition of "failure" is for stables. Do they have to revolutionize the federation like The Misfits (along with Pen and the other members of that revolution) did? Do they have to create moments that nobody ever can forget, as Original Sin did by doing unspeakable things to SPARTA on television? Do they have to win titles? Because YNG has 2. Or is it simply that they've got to stay together forever and when they break up they have "failed"? Mind you, that's not an "attack" on you, I am - just as I say - curious as to how you define failure and success.

I've already outlined what I think will happen with YNG - they'll eat each other. However, if they even last a cycle they'll have already done more than GSW or The Pack has done with their time here. Let's not underplay this - Bryson is the FMW Champ and now he has some lackeys that make him tougher to beat. Let's not pretend like we aren't aware that Nick Bryson is growing in power at an alarming rate. Is he still beatable? I'd say yes. But it won't be easy. I'm sure I could do it. I suspect you could do it, Austin. I suspect Harlequin could. I suspect Drew Michaels could. But I'm going to make a wild guess here - Bryson doesn't defend the belt again until the PPV.

He's at least taking off next show, and he'll argue that 3 straight shows of title matches wouldn't be fair. Then there's one show before the PPV, and I'll eat my hat if Bryson accepts a challenge before the PPV, and I doubt the FMW staff will make him defend it, risking whatever advertising and buildup they would have done for the PPV.

So, my educated guess is that it'll be Frost vs. Bryson at Death Row. Oh boy, will that be enjoyable. And this is why I don't really give a damn about the FMW World Title. Because that scene moves at a snail's pace. Rarely do guys get rematches. It's defended once... OCCASIONALLY twice... a cycle. Guys who legitimately SHOULD be in the title picture don't get there un... til they've waited in line for FUCKING EVER. To be frank, I'd rather be UV or C4 champion.

But I understand. Austin and Harlequin are clearly beyond the UV and C4 belts. Clearly Austin doesn't need to recapture the C4. Clearly Harlequin has done enough with the UV belt. So now... they wait in line forever, and then they'll probably end up jumped in line by whatever #1 contenders gimmick FMW throws at us. Maybe the Gold Card will come back. Maybe we'll have another tourney.

I feel sorry for you Austin. I know you hate hearing that, but I do. Because you're good enough to warrant the shot. I'd love to see you get it. But I have a sinking suspicion that you won't. I get what YNG stands for you - more obstacles. That's what it means for everyone here.

RCA wrote:

Fornicating with Celeste Rousseau-Roy clones is not the safest way to pass the time, but trash attracts trash, no matter how good of a wrestler the first piece of trash is.

And you're just so classy when it comes to women, aren't you?

Edible14 wrote:

Ah, so this is the point where you try to anger me by calling out a stable you know that I'm loyal to. Or Drew, perhaps I'm being somewhat self-servicing here. Thing is, I'm not angry at you. I get it, but more on that later.

I don't recall ever having an issue with you and outside of your mentor/trainer I had no idea you cared so much about them.

Drew on the other hand... well I'll get into that at 14.1.

Stables usually fail because either A) It was a bad idea to begin with (II) B) They eat each other before the accomplish the goal (as you've stated) or B) They lose sight of the goal and think that things are OK after they vanquish the target, totally missing the fact that their crusade isn't just to overthrow, but to overthrow and then restore the afflicted federation or what have you to some sort of "utopia".

To me the Misfits lost sight of that as of late and has just become a group of best friends. Acceptable, yes, but the stable, while modestly effective in its hey-day (Drew was dominant, Chaos did enough to stay afloat, Edible went on underrated and Trey/Rage were largely meh), has no point now.

Yes, I misspoke. They had their moments but now, they have none. Just a set of preferred tag team partners if one of them is placed in such an affair.

They are in limbo. But maybe that's the secret to a successful stable. Just do nothing and the egos won't clash.



And Ashburn... no, I'm not.

But I don't deal with trash. They end up worse off than they were, yes, but I don't start off with trash.

OOC: Sorry for no showing my match, I had to sell my laptop last miniute to pay off some massive debts so I wasn't able to promo.